You can have both, a business and be a present mom

Speaker 1: The first thing for a founder is releasing that hold over your business. Let it go a little bit. And especially if you do have children and you want to make them your focus. Society says we can't have both. Can't have success and be a present mom. And I think that's not true. We can, but you can't be 100% there and 100% with your child. You have to be smart and realize that success as a mom can look really different to success as a man with no children.

Speaker 2: [laughter] Very different. Yes. It's amazing how kids improve our organization and make us work a little faster so that we can spend that