Why Women’s Healthcare Is Still Broken, and How Lori Casselman Is Building the Platform to Fix It
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Welcome to She Built It. I'm your host,
Melanie Bar. Building in healthcare
requires more than a strong idea. It
requires operational discipline, trust,
clinical credibility, technology
compliance, and a business model that
can scale without losing the human
experience. Today's guest is building at
the intersection of all of it. Lori
Castleman is the founder and CEO of June
Health, a virtual women's health
platform designed to deliver
comprehensive expert care across every
life stage through one connected
experience. June brings together
clinical care, mental health support,
nutrition, fitness, family and caregiver
support, care navigation, prescriptions,
and supplements. But what makes the
business especially interesting is the
infrastructure behind it. A platform
model built around personalization,
access, expert care, and coordinated
support. Lori brings more than 20 years
of experience across corporate health
strategy, insurance, digital health, and
emerging health technologies. She's held
leadership roles, giving her a clear
view of how health care, employers,
benefits, technology, and consumer
expectations are changing. She built
June Health not only to improve women's
care, but to build the smarter, more
scalable model for how that care is
delivered. Thank you for joining us,
Lori. Where do you see the biggest
opportunity for AI to improve women's
health outcomes and care experiences?
One of the really key areas for us is
optimizing the practitioners and really
being able to take this incredible
expertise that clinical um
practitioners. So, women's health
experts like OB/GYN practitioners, nurse
practitioners who have done whether it's
fertility training, menopause
certification.
We want to be able to really support
those practitioners to be able to see
more patients. It's about uh driving
efficiency within their work
environment, taking all of those
administrative tasks sort of off the
table for them. So that's one key area
for us. Second key area is leveraging
the tools that are available to allow
our developers to code and build more
efficiently and more productively. We
have big vision. And there's a lot of
innovation happening within our
business. There's incredible tools at
the disposal of product designers and
developers and all really in the spirit
of driving better engagement for our
members, better utilization, better
care, and ultimately better health
outcomes. And I just keep thinking for
the practitioners, if you have all that
data and as a consumer, when you show
up, you can get to the heart of health
quicker and be much more efficient.
Absolutely. There's pattern matching for
example in some of the algorithms that
we've built into the onboarding process
for our members where we ask a series of
questions to really understand are they
struggling with some of their
demographic information etc. And then
you can really start to surface
intuitively leveraging AI. Are you also
experiencing any of these symptoms
because there's patterns that you're
able to tap into and I think it serves a
couple of really interesting purposes.
It helps the member feel like they're
not alone first of all and these that
they're experiencing as much as they
feel very personal and everyone is
unique. There's patterns here and
probably you may be experiencing some of
the following or their women at your
stage with this symptom may also feel
this type of symptom. And so do you
think there's interesting opportunities
for us to ensure that the member is
feeling heard and then to your point
leverage that data to create efficiency
in their care journey and in
understanding their and matching them to
the right practitioner at the right
time. What is your biggest growth
challenge right now as you scale June
Health and how are you thinking about
solving it?
Our biggest growth challenge is that we
want to do so much. We have a really big
vision for the company. There are many
different aspects of women's health care
and supporting women conveniently and
effectively that we want to build and
staging and sequencing what we build
when and also being somewhat patient
with stage that we're at the resources
we have at our disposal while still
moving as quickly as we possibly can
doing as much as we can and driving for
that vision of closing the gender health
equity gap. and you're solving complex
problems. So I can see how that growth
is not always easy to map moving
forward.
Yeah, it's not always easy. One of the
key things that's underlying many
challenges, especially in a business at
our stage where we're 3 years in, the
talent that you have sort of on your
team and around you is is critically
important. You have to surround yourself
with really smart, really motivated,
driven people who are also passionate
about the problems that you're solving,
who have complimentary skill sets. And
the reality is sometimes this talent or
team members that are appropriate at a
certain stage are not always the same
talented team members that are
appropriate at your next stage. There's
also an element in growing and thinking
about those growth challenges and those
growth ambitions. It just comes down to
okay, who's doing the work and have you
surrounded yourself with the right
people to lock arms and dig in and do
that work together and that iterates. It
evolves over time. And how are you
protecting and building a strong company
culture inside a virtual health
platform?
Most leaders need to pause on this one.
Culture is everything. I'm a huge
believer in if you create a great
environment that people want to be part
of and allow them to thrive, magic
happens. We have a lot of norms and
processes within our culture that we
stay very true to things like a regular
cadence of bringing the team together.
It's one hour once a week, but even if
you're pulling from people to bring that
agenda together and perhaps one week
you're feeling like the agenda isn't as
deep as it is another week, you have to
be really committed to just that
connection, especially when you're a
virtual team, which we are. We have
employees all over the country. In many
cases, people that have been on our team
for a number of years now have never met
anyone else in person. those norms and
connection points are really important.
And then the other thing is surrounding
yourself with really talented people and
then getting out of their way. For
myself as a leader, I think about this a
lot, especially given I'm a founder and
obviously I care very deeply about the
business and many aspects of the
business. This is the hardest following
this rule has ever been cuz you want to
have eyes on and touching everything.
But at the same time, you have to flex
that trust muscle. It has to be part of
your culture. And you have to find great
people and let them do what they're
great at and what you hired them in the
first place to do. And you can't be
great at everything. Know your strengths
and lean into those strengths and let
other people do the same thing.
Celebrate the wins. We don't do that
enough because everything feels hard.
That's a key culture thing, too, is take
a moment, whether it's in those weekly
meetings or messaging to the team. Even
if the wins are small, you need to
celebrate them.
And it's interesting cuz I think I used
to be better at celebrating the wins,
but now as things are moving so quickly,
thank you for bringing that up because
it gets lost even more so today. It's
funny, a little personal story here. I
saw my brother on the weekend and he was
saying, "Wow, you've done so much in the
last couple years and you've just hit
some key milestones. Are you feeling
proud of yourself?" I had to pause for a
minute because to a large extent, no, I
haven't been taking a beat to feel that
pride because I'm constantly thinking
about the next thing that we need to do.
But it's such an important reminder.
Celebrate the journey. And thank you for
bringing that up. We used to talk about
it a lot on this podcast and you
bringing it up made me stop and think
we're moving so fast that we're not
really doing that so much anymore. And
you're right as a founder one of the
hardest parts is saying am I the
bottleneck? Am I stopping the growth
right from moving forward
right? It's a hard mirror put up against
yourself. But it's also great to check
in with your team, especially some of
the folks that have been with you for a
long time or some of the leaders that
you spend sort of the most time with on
a day-to-day basis and get that
feedback. I mean, the difficult
feedback. Am I getting in the way? Am I
slowing things down?
What is one honest lesson about leading
people in healthcare in a startup
environment that you wish more founders
talked about? It goes back to that point
I just talked about with sometimes the
people that you surrounded yourself with
to get you to a certain point are not
necessarily the same people that you
need to achieve the next set of
milestones or objectives. The hard part
there is a lot of loyalty and trust that
goes into building something together.
It can be really hard just that point
where it's not working. Too many
founders let that drag for reasons that
I touched on, right? loyalty, there's
experience, there's having been in the
trenches together, and it's tough to
call that out. But bottom line is when
you you know it in your gut and in your
heart, you just need to deal with it
because everyone around you, right,
whether that's your investors, your
adviserss, even your clients, everyone
around you feels it when you are not
dealing with it. as hard as it is, is
one of those things where you just have
to push yourself to the band-aid off and
deal with the problem once in your heart
that change needs to happen.
Yeah. And trusting your instincts.
Exactly. Exactly. What lights you up the
most about what you do and makes you
excited to continue building June Health
every day?
I feel like we're doing something really
important. We hear it from our
practitioners and our members. I've been
fortunate that throughout my entire
career, I've worked in healthcare and
insurance my whole career. I've worked
in a space where I feel like work that
you're doing, as much as it may seem
somewhat removed on a day-to-day basis.
Heart of the why is improving people's
lives, that is the heart of our why at
June Health. And we believe and we see
it every day that we are impacting
women's lives. and big ambitious goal is
to make a dent in closing that gender
health equity gap. That lights me up and
I see that we're hitting milestones and
adding incredible new people to our team
and we're expanding these care journeys,
meaning we can touch more lives and
solve more health challenges for women.
That's very fulfilling. Those are the
things I think about on the long walks
at the end of a very stressful day. It's
that member testimonial or that story
you heard from a practitioner where even
if there were a few tough ones in any
particular day and challenges that
you're needing to solve. You have to
anchor to some of those positives to
know that you are making a difference
and that definitely lights me up. I feel
passionate about the work that we do.
And it's great that not only can you
love building the business but have the
passion and the mission behind it.
Exactly. I work with an incredible team.
That lights me up too when you see
someone else getting as excited about
your vision for the business that you'd
been thinking about for many many years
and they're now on that journey with you
building and they're as excited about
that vision now as you were many years
ago. That's super fulfilling and
exciting too. I love those moments where
we have a conversation sometimes even
with our investors or advisors where our
clients and our clients are often
companies. We sell June as an employee
benefit as well into companies. And when
you get on those calls and they're just
as excited about what you're building
and the impact it could have as you are,
that's super fulfilling. So true. And
I've loved building a global team and I
love it when my team challenges me and
says, "Hey, have you thought about
this?" and surrounding yourself with
innovative people has been so much fun.
Yeah, absolutely. I couldn't agree more.
It's tell me something I don't know. How
would you think about this? And ideally,
it's very differently than how you think
about it. And then that combination of
different perspectives just elevates the
solution that you're building. And it
took a while for me to think, I want
this. I want someone to challenge me. I
want someone to come to me with
innovative ideas. Yes. All the time.
Especially how fast we're moving. Yeah,
absolutely. One of my principles of
leadership is if I don't know, I can't
fix it. I really do ultimately encourage
people around me and the people that I'm
working with to find a moment or a
constructive way or a channel to share
feedback about what's happening in the
organization on their team with me so
that we're eyes wide open and it just be
data point that we can work to solve
for. So true. I have a potential client
that I might be working with and I keep
sharing information with her whether she
becomes a client or not. I want her to
know the information because I as a
leader would want to know that
information.
Yeah. Sometimes those can be tough
conversations whether you're on the
delivering end or receiving end. But
ultimately it's all in the spirit of
evolving and improving. What is one way
that you protect and cultivate your joy
with your work and your life today?
Ultimately, I'm probably not doing it as
well as I would like to in this early
0ero to one stage. But for me, it's all
about family and relationships, spending
time with my kids and my husband,
getting outside. I try and protect at
least 45 minutes to an hour a day to
hike or be outside, even if it's just
walking the dog and taking him on a
little extra walk. My dad taught me
really early on in my life when you're
going through a stressful time, go back
to the basics, which is chop wood, carry
water philosophy. Sometimes you just
need to get out and garden or do some
sort of hard work and turn your brain
off a little bit and turn on the
physical side. That definitely can bring
me joy as well. And the last thing is
traveling. We travel as a family quite a
bit and I definitely love seeing new
places and expanding our horizons.
It's amazing the perspective that you
have when you get outside and then
having a dog is great because it forces
you to get out and take those moments
even when you might not decide to do it.
It's a calming thing to just spend time
with an animal and like slow down and
walk a dog and sometimes you need that
at the end of a very busy day.
Yeah. Thank you so much for everything
you're doing to improve women's health.
Can you please share with us how and
where we can find you?
We are June Health. You can find us on
Instagram, LinkedIn. Our website is
www.junehealth.care.
Connect with us on LinkedIn. be really
happy to hear from anyone.
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